The only thing I would say to that is that I think this should all be in the context of an overarching alignment over China. This is an argument similar to the one I made to the Europeans. It's that I think the deal is going to be, because Canada is reliant on American defence capability, just implicitly.... In a sense, the biggest challenge we face as a nation is that it's the first time we've not been a larger economy than our rival since Great Britain in the 19th century, when we had a hostile relationship with Great Britain. This is a very new situation. It's going to be a fundamental, societal-level, long-term challenge for us, and I think it's very important that we be aligned at the basic kind of level, even if there is a division of labour.
I agree with what Mr. Rasiulis is saying and it makes sense to me, but I think that politically and in ways that make sense and in planning terms—in Five Eyes terms— it's important that we be aligned in this orientation towards China.