I don't want to be prescriptive here. In my book, Reinventing Canadian Defence Procurement, I outlined a number of models. They're all easily doable legislatively. You can put that accountability with the Minister of Natural Defence or with the Minister of PSPC. You can create a third minister who is accountable for defence procurement. I don't really care. However, I do care about the fact that this is the only area where you're spending billions of dollars a year where the Prime Minister can't identify one minister and say to them that either they're doing a great job or they're doing a lousy job.
Using an example, if you have a number of children and you say to them “take out the garbage”, likely it won't be done. If you tell one child to do it, you have a better chance that they will do it.
This overlap and duplication means that no one is accountable. It becomes much less rigorous. You're not focused on the details and you have sloppiness. That's why you underspend. That's why you don't know where the bottlenecks are. That's why you have these huge cost escalations. It's because you can't hold one person accountable.
I think it's a fundamental flaw that can easily be fixed. It won't solve all of the problems—for sure, it won't—but I'll tell you that unless you do it, you won't get the system fixed. It's mandatory, in my estimation.