Thank you. I'm glad you circled back to risk.
When it comes to our risk aversion that's been built into the entire system we have right now, we're penny-wise and pound foolish. A lot of that is for just trying to diminish risk as we're trying to move forth programs. Long-term costing to try to get things costed down to the nearest dollar when we're talking about multi-hundreds of millions of dollars is an example of the risk aversion we've built into the system.
I think the operational risk right now has to trump the rest of the risks that we're trying to manage through these defence procurements. When we're talking about the risks to the men and women of the Canadian Forces, as Gaston just talked about, getting them off the road was one of the examples of why the Chinooks were so important in Afghanistan.
There are many more examples where the operational military risks are being treated secondarily to programmatic or bureaucratic risks. That has to change.