Sure. Thanks for the question. I'll start, having served in NATO.
NATO is a very solid military organization. It's a military fighting force that works from diplomatic to tactical. Currently it's 31 countries, soon to be 32. Canada, of course, is one of the original founders of that organization. There is no equivalent in the Indo-Pacific. We have partners there. We've described Japan and the Republic of Korea. We're working with Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. However, there is no comparable military headquarters or military system to plug into.
I think the recent progress we've made with ADMM-Plus and ASEAN writ large is a good indicator of how our continued presence is a good-news story in showing that Canada is heavily involved in the Indo-Pacific, but we also have to understand that there is no equivalent of a 70-plus-year-old organization called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.