In terms of these streamlining ideas, paperwork requirements and long-term industrial strategies, can both of you talk about the fact that there's a 30% vacancy rate within procurement in defence and how it's impacting that?
Maybe, with the additional time, we can hear from both of you as well about what you've heard from your members. I know there has been a delay in the updated defence policy. We spoke about it with the minister last week. I know that many of us thought it would happen before the summer break. Can you talk about what you've heard from your members on that as well?