For me, living this on a daily basis—tomorrow I will chair an ADM-level committee on the EPS and will review a few projects—I actually find it's a strength of the system.
With the way we are structured now and the way we come together through a very structured, rigid governance, including all the departments—the client department, ISED and PSPC—we in PSPC are the glue in this governance. We're bringing together the different trade-offs that have been mentioned at this table. We have really good discussions about what needs to be done.
I remember the days when this governance did not exist and we didn't talk to each other. Now we talk to each other a lot—two or three times a day. The governance is formal and we have central agencies fully integrated—