We know the condition of the navy and we should be getting ships built quicker. We're going to be waiting 15 years to replace the Halifax-class frigates.
RUSI, the Royal United Services Institute, came out with its report on the Royal Canadian Air Force fighter jets. They are saying that we're down to 56 pilots, and we cannot maintain that to operate a NORAD and NATO mission. One of your predecessors, Minister Sajjan, went out there and bought a bunch of used Australian fighter jets. We got 88 aircraft, supposedly, but we don't have the pilots to fly them.
Are we withdrawing from NATO and from doing any air policing?