The processes that he might be referring to is the newest guideline from Treasury Board on contracting services. I've been very clear about our position on that. It looks like it's a gauntlet for somebody to get through before they can actually contract out. It doesn't put any oversight in the hands of the departments. It doesn't say when they should be looking and how they should be looking. It just talks about the steps and the processes.
For me, there need to be clear rules and oversight. You need to see if this job can be done by a public servant and not look at the easiest way to hire or go to a contract. You should be able to say there should be oversight that says, “No, we don't believe this should be done outside".
I really would question the fact that it's just easier, and we need to stop that.