Evidence of meeting #38 for National Defence in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was industry.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Seïn Pyun  Vice-President, Government and Industry Affairs, Bombardier inc.
Hébert  Vice-President, Defence and Security, Canada and International, CAE Inc.
Kolias  Chief Executive Officer, Canada Rocket Company
Greenley  Chief Executive Officer, MDA Space
Goel  Chief Executive Officer, NordSpace Corporation
Elzein  Chief Executive Officer, Reaction Dynamics Lab Inc.

12:35 p.m.

Vice-President, Government and Industry Affairs, Bombardier inc.

Pierre Seïn Pyun

I mentioned talks with the RCAF through the DIA for the Global for multi-role airlift capability and also the NRC aircraft for research purposes.

12:35 p.m.

Vice-President, Defence and Security, Canada and International, CAE Inc.

France Hébert

We have signed a co-development contract with the Government of Canada on the future fighter lead-in training program as part of the strategic partnership.

12:35 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, MDA Space

Mike Greenley

Yes, it's a strategic agreement for the enhanced satellite communications polar project. That's about a $5 billion-plus program.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Is it an agreement with a signed contract with dollars flowing? Is this agreement signed with a contract?

12:35 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, MDA Space

Mike Greenley

Dollars are flowing within it, yes, in addition to the long lead item component of a new satellite.

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Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Since May...?

12:35 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, MDA Space

Mike Greenley

That was in October.

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Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

It was October.

Okay.

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Chief Executive Officer, Canada Rocket Company

Hugh Kolias

Yes, through the DRDC, with contract signed and dollars flowing.

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Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Thank you.

Very quickly then, we seem to be missing a national security policy as the foundation, the guidance, the threat assessment and the strategic assessment that would underpin or be the foundation for the defence industrial strategy, and then the Defence Investment Agency, to get those contracts going and focus on what the particular needs are. In my opinion what I'm seeing is that it seems to be more willy-nilly all over the place as opposed to focused on what we need collectively as a country, not for your individual organizations.

My quick-answer question in the time that I have remaining is this: Would procurement planning, coordination and co-operation, focused and efficient and national in effect, be better, in your opinion, if we had an underpinning national security policy?

12:35 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Reaction Dynamics Lab Inc.

Bachar Elzein

It would definitely help. I would say it all depends on the national security policy as well.

12:35 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, NordSpace Corporation

Rahul Goel

Absolutely, it would help.

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Vice-President, Government and Industry Affairs, Bombardier inc.

Pierre Seïn Pyun

I think it's one of the building blocks.

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Vice-President, Defence and Security, Canada and International, CAE Inc.

France Hébert

I would say the same.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I would agree.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, MDA Space

Mike Greenley

I think the most important thing is to have a long-term defence capability procurement road map, which I think, for government, would be helpful if backed up by a security policy in terms of why you need that capability.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I agree. Thank you very much for your comment.

Do I have any time left, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Charles Sousa

You do actually.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

This is a first.

My last question here will be really quick now. We don't have a national inventory of capability, production, companies, assets, etc., the national inventory of everything. We don't have that. I brought this up before. Again, I know it might not be within your own silo of what you do, but in terms of effectively coordinating and efficiently using our dollars, do you think that would be of benefit and something for the government to have to help better plan?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Reaction Dynamics Lab Inc.

Bachar Elzein

It would be extremely helpful because it would help also guide who we can work with on what. That's, I think, very key.

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Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

That's a shared national inventory.

Go ahead.

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Chief Executive Officer, NordSpace Corporation

Rahul Goel

Yes, absolutely understanding the gaps and how to fill them would be critical.

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Vice-President, Government and Industry Affairs, Bombardier inc.

Pierre Seïn Pyun

I would support this detailed capability mapping. I think it should go hand in hand with the build-partner-buy framework, because we need to understand where the gaps are. In terms of promoting exports as well, I think it's important for the Canadian government to understand where the capabilities at a detailed level reside.

The Chair Liberal Charles Sousa

Thank you, Mr. Kibble.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Kibble Conservative Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Do we have time for a quick one?