Yes, the big trucks too.
I think what you've done there is quite amazing, and I'm glad I went to see it. You should be proud of the technical and the managerial way it's been put together.
My concern personally is not so much what's going on today but in looking forward. We were told there are something like 18 projects in the pipeline that have some agreement to proceed, and there are another 27 beyond that in the feasibility or advanced feasibility stage.
You've heard about the tragedy of the commons, the story many centuries ago in England of the sheep farmers who all had a bit of private land and there was a common pasture. Well, what happened was the sheep were all put in the common pasture and the common pasture was obliterated. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why it happened.
You have a certain interest, it seems to me, in what are public goods. You're responsible corporate citizens, but there are clearly limits that you will go to. You have returns to shareholders, and you have an enterprise that you have to maintain and operate. We as parliamentarians have a responsibility for the public good as well, and I'm concerned.
When I talk about public good, I'm talking about CO2 production. I'm talking about climate change and greenhouse gases. I'm talking about water. I think everybody you talk to knows there are water problems looming in the oil sands.
I'm also worried about the infrastructure in Fort McMurray and the rate of growth there. I know you are concerned about it as well.
You talked about capturing carbon and sequestering carbon, and we heard about the technologies for water recycling. We know water is being recycled, but a lot of it is going into tailings ponds. There's certainly a lag time or a lead time, and some of the water in the tailings will never make it back into the river systems. I think it's an issue.
If you could all agree among yourselves that these were going to be the objectives, there'd be no new projects unless the water recycling achieved the rate of 70% or 80%. I don't know what the number is. The CO2 would only be permitted up to a certain point and would have to be essentially captured and sequestered.
Oil is a commodity product internationally. If you're all on a level playing field or on the same footing, as long as you can make a return to your shareholders, is it the level playing field you're looking for, or do the economics go beyond that?