When I think about value-added and what our committee thought about value-added, the key thing is really to move our energy system up market. Canada has enormous resources, but in the long run I don't think we provide really productive jobs for Canadians by just pulling those resources out at minimum cost, so what I really mean by value-added is putting a lot more R and D money into being the developers of some of the newer higher technologies that provide both more value-added jobs in Canada and more exports. Whether it is advanced fuel cells or advanced ways to make hydrogen from natural gas or gasification technologies that replace natural gas in oil sands--such as the OPTI/Nexen plant in the oil sands--or advanced nuclear power plants for electricity, those are the kinds of things that move us up the value chain.
I don't think the government only should set the prices; there are things we need to do to encourage innovation. I would like to get more funding for R and D in universities and in industry and so on. We need ways to encourage that, and ways to provide incentives for early risk-takers.
On your question about natural gas, there are methods now for reducing natural gas use in oil sands operations and replacing it with other technologies. Nuclear power is certainly a possibility, and gasification of residuals is more than a possibility; that is what OPTI/Nexen is doing at Long Lake. They are actually cutting metal today, but they're taking some big risks to do it. I think we need to set up schemes that make it easier for the company to take the first big risk.