Initially we went directly after the steam producers in the SAGD. The SAGD processes in operation today aren't large enough to take the amount of steam that the nuclear reactor produces. Right now, until we get a SAGD operator that is planning to do something in excess of 200,000 barrels a day in a radius.... None of them are stepping up. They've made plans for it, but those are just long term, and they are all staged plans.
Right now we've backed away a little from straight steam operators and we are looking more at the electrical side. Right now we have a surplus of electricity in Alberta, but with the demand that's coming with the hydrogen and with the need for electricity from Shell and Husky, we feel that's probably the direction we have to take.
I'm a little worried for some of the operators in terms of the amount of gas they're using in cogeneration and the carbon dioxide that is being put into the air and how much they're using. The graph there shows that 10 years from today, we're going to need imported gas in order for these facilities to operate. I think it is up to you, the federal government, to put some policies in place so that we use the gas for the right process, and you're not burning gold to produce coal. We've got that problem right now as we're burning good gas.
The operators up there are actually taking it on themselves. As we've said, they're trying some different processes because they've got the concern that they're building these big infrastructures to produce this oil and they won't have the fuel to maintain those processes, so they're looking at other ways. Right now they're looking at cogeneration of bitumens, but we're trying to show them the cost-effectiveness of nuclear.
Nuclear for Albertans is a strange and winding road. In the last year we've got them around that, to the point that now they're looking at it and entertaining the idea, but at first it was just really scary for them, because these guys are oil guys, and they didn't want to talk about a competitive industry in their backyard.