I think there are some challenges. The forest sector certainly has a challenge with the high cost of energy. They also have a challenge, I think, with their infrastructure, especially in some regions where the infrastructure is very old and it's not terribly even, so they have inefficiencies in the energy conversion efficiencies on that infrastructure. So I think using biomass as an energy source doesn't get around to some of the infrastructure problems that are inherent within some of the operations.
I think that one of the things, certainly in our discussions with some of the companies in the forest sector, is that they're very interested in seeing their plants being used as a bio-refinery, getting energy as well as the higher-value chemicals and materials out of these biomass feedstocks, and indeed, trying to have that help in the economics and in their viability to move forward.
So I think it does play a role, but I think we shouldn't be looking at only energy. We should be looking at a suite of biomass products, the foundation of which is probably energy. We need to get more value out of this resource. I think that's a key part of the strategy moving forward.