Take a look at the existing projects that are out in the world today. Most of them were built seven to ten years ago. None of them has operated totally reliably. They were demonstration projects, and they were designed to be such. They tried different things. The ones that have survived, four or five of them—three in the United States, say three in Europe that I know about and have visited—are viable operations today, but not without a tremendous amount of difficulty in getting going.
Now we're into the second phase of building what we would call demonstration plants for the gasification technology. It's not without risk. We can build those plants for capital costs that are somewhat higher than the existing technology, maybe 20% or 30% higher, but that's not the problem. The problem is with the reliability of the plants in the early stages of their life. You can build a plant, but it has to start operating pretty much immediately. If we look at Genesee 3, it started up and I don't think it's ever shut down really. It has been a very reliable plant based on a lot of technology that's out there and proven. These new plants will probably not behave that way, and as a result, industry is very often reluctant to get involved with things they know are going to lose money in the beginning years.