Evidence of meeting #1 for Natural Resources in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Chad Mariage

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Catherine Bell NDP Vancouver Island North, BC

Thank you. And congratulations, Chair.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Thank you.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Catherine Bell NDP Vancouver Island North, BC

I'm curious. Doesn't saying “including two members of the opposition” automatically mean that the other two members would be the government?

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Not necessarily. The way I, at least, would interpret that—not for the chair, though—would be that at least two members, but all three members, could be from the opposition.

Now, you can't start a committee meeting without a chair, and the chair in this case is a government member.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Catherine Bell NDP Vancouver Island North, BC

Yes, but it doesn't say “at least two members”, it says, “including two members of the opposition”.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Yes.

Mr. Boshcoff.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Boshcoff Liberal Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I believe the wording we have agreed to is clear and I would not want to change it at this time.

Thank you.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Okay, we have a motion....

Mr. Anderson.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

David Anderson Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK

I would just make the point that we had a committee yesterday that approved the change to include one member of the government. I don't think it's implicit in this, so I think it would be good if we did it. But it will be the will of the committee, I guess.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Yes, Mr. Boshcoff.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Boshcoff Liberal Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON

Mr. Chair, can I ask what committee did that?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Anderson.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

David Anderson Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK

We did it in the agriculture committee. Pat Martin suggested it, and it was passed at the committee.

Do you remember that he made the amendment, Ken?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Ms. DeBellefeuille.

9:15 a.m.

Bloc

Claude DeBellefeuille Bloc Beauharnois—Salaberry, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I support Mr. Boshcoff's motion. The wording of the motion on reduced quorum, that four members of the committee including two members of the opposition be present is fair and correct. I think that the rule should remain the same and that is the responsibility of each of the committee's members to be present at the time determined for meetings, both members of the opposition as well as those of the government. This wording poses no problem for me. During the last session, we never had any difficulty and I do not see how the clarification suggested by Mr. Trost would be of assistance.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Okay, we have an amendment proposed by Mr. Trost, which adds to the motion from the last committee, “and one member of the government”.

We've had some discussion. Is there any further discussion on that motion?

(Amendment negatived)

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Shall we now go with the original motion? Is it agreed?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

On distribution of documents, does anyone want to move a motion?

Yes, Mr. Boshcoff.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Boshcoff Liberal Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON

I move that this motion be approved.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

The motion for distribution of documents?

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Boshcoff Liberal Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON

Check.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Working meals. Would you like to keep it the same as it was at the last meeting?

We need a mover on that. Sorry, I'm rushing.

Monsieur St. Amand.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Lloyd St. Amand Liberal Brant, ON

I move the motion on working meals, as set out in the distributed document.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Would someone like to move the motion on witnesses' expenses?

Mr. Trost.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Bradley Trost Conservative Saskatoon—Humboldt, SK

I so move, as it was last year.