To answer your last question first, the devastation in rural communities is almost indescribable. The last one that I personally experienced was in British Columbia. That was the closure of the AbitibiBowater newsprint mill and sawmills in Mackenzie, British Columbia.
What's so brutal about that story is that it wasn't one of the old mills. It was probably one of the most modern new mills in newsprint we had in Canada. For all kinds of reasons, AbitibiBowater pulled the plug on it. It could not make money. It was bleeding cash. From a community that had employment for about 4,000 workers in the forest industry, it's down to about 400 total. It has ruined the lives of many people.
The answer we get from some is, well, they can move to Alberta. My God, though, you have no idea what it does to a family to pick up your kids, move your grandparents, do all of those things when there's generation after generation just entwined in the forest community.
So it has had a huge impact. And it is a big resource; I agree with Mr. Rigato about these decimated communities.
On the issue of money, we have asked the Prime Minister to put $10 billion into research and development and advancing biotechnology. Why would we reach a number like $10 billion? Because people don't understand capital investment. To build a moderate-sized pulp mill in the world today, it costs $1.5 billion to $2 billion. And that's one mill, not multiple.
So as to the suggestion that $10 million is going to lead the light--come on, it can't work. We need real money, not subsidy, for research and development, and we wouldn't mind a bit of money to help communities transition through here.