Ms. Bell, you asked for an example. We were referring to private owners. There are 450,000 in Canada and 130,000 in Quebec, 50 of whom are active owners. The forest provides their livelihood. I am an owner, I come from the Saguenay—Lac-Saint-Jean region, but I will give you the example of another region because I am the provincial president of the organization.
Not a single log was delivered to the plant this year by three sawmills in Abitibi-Témiscamingue. Nevertheless, these people are organized. They have woodlots, machines and deadlines to meet, but they were unable to sell any wood. Moreover, Quebec has a law respecting residuality. Nevertheless, the industry gets its supply from public forests, and the wood from private forests comes second. There is not even any political will.
I don't know what they do in other provinces, but these people are at the end of their rope, they are in despair. That is what is happening in Quebec, Ms. Bell, and I imagine that the same thing must be happening in other provinces. They take the wood from the public forests, and ignore the private owners.