I don't know what the uptake on that has been and how many people have used it.
Before you answer my question—because I have a few—I've been getting a lot of mail and calls from people saying they have done the assessments, have purchased maybe a heat pump or would like to do more things, and the return they're getting for a $13,000 heat pump is only about $400.
In the press releases and in the material I've seen from your department, it says that homeowners can get up to $5,000. I don't know if people are being misled on that or what the situation is, but it's disconcerting when they actually try to get the money back or try to access the grant and they're really not getting much of a return. People are saying, “Why should I invest all that if it's really not going to help me?”
The other piece of it is that there used to be a grant for low-income individuals, and that's unavailable now. I've had people who had applied under the previous program—which has now gone and has been changed—and who hadn't been approved but had had their application in. They feel that they probably would have been approved, but then there were the changes. They can no longer afford to do the assessments because they have low incomes, and that's a big problem.
I'm just wondering if there is going to be any kind of review of this program for low-income people, because when they're paying high energy costs, that also eats into their low income. I'm just curious to know if there is any way you can have more investment in that program to help low-income people.