If I can just take one second first, Catherine mentioned log exports. I don't think it gets enough play here, and I've got to tell a two-second story.
The largest private landholder on Vancouver Island--and I won't name the company, as they're currently suing me, and I don't want my second lawsuit--is responsible for about 80% of the log exports. They closed down their last manufacturing facility. If you can imagine this, you have a company that has nothing but private land and is only in business to do two things: first and foremost, sell those logs off short--sell them off short--and second, sell good stuff for real estate.
I know Mr. Irving would love to have a sawmill to which he can direct nothing but grade A prime logs 24 hours a day. With this company owning some of the best land in British Columbia, selling only the best logs in the world, that company could put nothing but number one prime grade A logs into his sawmill and have the biggest competitive advantage over anybody because he's only got grade A stock going in--nothing else.
They closed the manufacturing plant. They've got no manufacturing left.
All they wanted to do is export logs. There's something wrong with that in Canada. We heard the professors talking about how the rest of the world is taking our product and how we're being overrun. They're not exporting crap--excuse me--they are exporting only the very best logs, and all of British Columbia and all of Canada is being exported. I'm sorry; I just had to say that with respect to log exports.
With respect to the community trusts, there is some stuff going on, but as the professor has already indicated, most of the stuff is.... God bless the communities; they're trying to survive. He used the example, and I know it's true, of a couple of communities that are building longer runways so that they can bring more tours in from Europe without having to stop in the major centres first. As I said earlier, when communities are trying to survive, they'll do anything for the long term; they'll look anywhere for dollars and cents. God bless them. Some of the initiatives may look good on paper, but those dollars being spent on building that runway, making it longer, aren't doing anything to create jobs for those guys and keeping them working in the communities. That's the problem.