We've struggled with this government and the previous one around the procurement aspect of this. Is government betting on the next energy? Or is it hedging its bets in the past? Firming up government procurement policy into green energy, whether it's buying vehicles or buildings, has been extraordinarily frustrating.
Mr. Murray, you spoke with some passion. Some other witnesses here and others have mentioned about pricing carbon, about that fork in the road, I suppose, where we're at. We're in an economic crisis, and I think because it's easier to explain to Canadians, the government uses bridges and roads to describe how it's going to stimulate the economy on an infrastructure level, whereas some of the things we've talked about today take more than an eight-second soundbite.
How do we move past that and choose the right fork in the road so the cyclical nature of this doesn't come back and we're not sitting here, 20 years from Mr. Harper's government, looking at a report done 40 years ago by Mr. Mulroney's government, saying we should take the correct route? What is the language that needs to be adapted and adopted by this committee when we go forcefully to government and say that it needs to change course?