Thank you.
The issue here is what are the alternatives? How does one judge alternative A versus alternative B? Resources are limited, and if you use them in one employment, then you have to look at what you lose if you were to use them someplace else. This is crucial, particularly at this moment. There are overriding concerns that we shouldn't recreate the past. This is a time in which the crisis is providing us an opportunity to re-evaluate and to be quite specific about what our objectives are. What sort of future are we trying to create? The concern here is about the extent to which we can avoid replicating the past and give a chance to a sustainable economy to emerge, and to see to what extent we can exploit the conversions of the environment and the economy.
There are always aspects of this where people think the economy and the environment are at odds. Actually, the trade-offs are really limited, and it's really a question of “both or neither”. The issue is to see what you are ultimately getting at the margin, in terms of employment—when unemployment is rising very quickly—and what you are getting for this employment, in terms of the environment, climate change, and the clean living we would all like to see.