That's right, Mr. Chair, I don't want to shortchange. That's why I wanted to do it now, while we're waiting. I see they're going to probably be a couple of minutes more.
I do want to get it on the record that this is a concern. We ought to write to the department. If a department is asked to come before a committee, can't they send anybody? It's a little hard to believe. It's a big department, first of all, but is this not important enough? We've heard the nature of the situation—