All right. On that, Mr. Thompson, thank you. I'm sure Mr. Binder is quite capable, on other occasions, of having a rejoinder to that, but we're going to leave it at that. Thank you.
Thank you to our witnesses. Unfortunately, we have run out of time, but we appreciate very much the input you've given us today. Thank you.
We're just going to break for one minute, and then we'll reconvene. I don't think it's necessary to go in camera with respect to the budget issues, so we'll just reconvene in one minute.
Thank you.