Some of our participants are the Canadian Electricity Association and Canadian Petroleum. I was just appointed with Ken to the Canadian Electricity Association's public advisory panel on sustainable electricity initiatives.
There is a growing interest in the major utilities and in moving in the directions you're talking about. Some examples of rural communities taking this on very aggressively, very actively are starting to form up.
Regarding the definition of rural, according to Statistics Canada, it's under 10,000 people. As for what's rural and what's remote, we're talking about being within a half an hour or an hour's commute of an urban centre, which is more than 10,000. We're very interested in small, rural, remote, and aboriginal communities as well as the large cities.