I'd just like to add to that in terms of remote communities and some of the challenges faced with resource exports right now around the forestry industry. There are other value-added uses of lumber in these communities that could relate to integrated energy systems. For example, wood waste can be used as a fuel source to generate heat and power. There are other options in terms of waste heat and co-locating various industries close to an old paper plant, for example, that's shut down. Especially with the pine beetle infestation, there's a need to do something with this lumber. There are examples out there of communities, such as Prince George and others in Quebec, that are taking advantage of this waste wood or the lumber that's just sitting there.
