Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to the witnesses for coming today.
Of course, I have to begin by congratulating Mr. Horan-Lunney for noting the example of West Hants, the county I was born in, and the next-door riding of Kings--Hants, where my colleague Scott Brison is the MP. It was interesting to note that the places like West Hants and others you listed are leading the way in showing places like poor Toronto how it should be done. I'm sure colleagues on the other side and elsewhere can appreciate that.
I'm going to start with a question for the Green Building Council.
In relation to a building like the Verdant in Burnaby and others you pointed out in your presentation, when there's an additional cost of 3% to 4%, as I think you indicated, how many years does it take before that gets paid off in terms of the savings you get in a building of that sort?