Mr. Liepert, it's not what I am saying; it is the evidence that appeared before our committee. I'll be happy to send you personally the report.
In testimony, representatives of the oil sands sector spoke to the fact that their ponds are leaking. It's not I who am saying that; I'm not doing the monitoring.
Unfortunately, we're at a disadvantage, because despite invitations, we did not have the Government of Alberta or the energy board testifying; we could only go on the basis of industry witnesses—and we had some federal authorities. So based on the evidence that we heard, we were told that there are a number of problems, including those mentioned in the testimony by Dr. Schindler and the testimony on potential problems with groundwater.
I would be happy to share my report, and of course you are party to...it is, I think, the Department of Energy that sponsored the review of the oil sands. And the former deputy minister of environment did a background report advising that pacing may be a problem—