He mentioned RAMP, which is the regional aquatics monitoring program at CEMA. ACFN was at one time a member of those organizations, but we have since pulled out, because in our opinion the results that were coming back to us were inadequate.
Where I come from, the elders live off the land, and they see the changes out there. There are fish coming out of that lake and fish coming out of the river that are deformed. The animals are getting sick. The medicinal plants are getting sick. So our whole traditional way of living is becoming pretty--