The whole purpose of consultation is to overcome certain things. There are things we fully recognize, and the thing I personally recognize is that the courts cannot say that Gitxsan title is stronger than crown title. I can never expect that from the courts. The courts have come back and said that the Gitxsan titleholders can decide to what uses the lands may be put. That's from paragraph 166 of the Delgamuukw ruling. That whole process of consultation is necessary to engage the titleholders from the aboriginal community and the crown titleholder.
Once we arrive at a project, we can properly reflect on each other's interests without getting to the point where the crown recognizes the titleholder or the crown doesn't engage in dialogue, and projects like the Northern Gateway Pipeline can't be advanced.