Okay. I will pursue that later on.
We had quite a presentation and had various witnesses on integrated energy systems. Part of the evaluation is whether these programs have stimulated the integration of new technologies and of alternate energy production, probably from a macro and strategic point of view.
Do the evaluations give us the sense that we are actually learning from the technologies, that we are stimulating them with these programs?
And is there any evidence that we are integrating technologies—geothermal, solar, wind applications—into transportation or whatever? Are the programs stimulating that kind of strategic environmental progress?