Two examples. I'd like to know whether those examples are being looked at.
Now, Mr. Kearney, you brought up the task force that's been created and has been working. I'm hoping that these things are being looked at, the nuances and the differences.
I apologize for stealing this question from some of my Saskatchewan colleagues here, but I'm curious to find out. I'll ask a couple of questions and then leave the floor open for those of you who want to answer.
Mr. Bubar, you said you've basically got all-stakeholder approval, that there was no resistance in any of the projects that you had.
Mr. Goad, I believe in your testimony you said, if can use the words, that aboriginal governments were doing something to suit their own purposes, which sounds to me like it's not quite as clean-cut as what Mr. Bubar said. I'm wondering what the nuance differences could be in that. I'll let you take your shot at that first set of questions.
I'm from Alberta. The Rocky Mountains is where I like to go fishing and hunting and so on, but most of the roads that I come across out there, other than the public roads, have a gate across them because they were built by an oil and gas exploration company or they were built by a forestry company, and those roads are owned by those companies. This is a public safety issue, because those roads were built and designed for hauling out logs, for big service vehicles and so on. When those leases are up or those cut blocks are taken care of, then there's public access into those roads. Those roads are obviously paid for by the company on a cost-recovery basis for access to the resource.
If you're going to ask me, as a politician, to make a recommendation that the Government of Canada or other levels of government should be partnering and paying for some of this public infrastructure, which is the case, that money's going to have to come from someplace. It's going to have to come from the tax base. That means I'm going to have to increase payroll taxes or increase corporate taxes and so on, to balance off those needs.
I guess I'm putting the question directly to you: would you rather pay more taxes to have roads built by the government, or would you rather have less government and build your own road and get the permitting done quicker?