I'll now the address the issue of the first nations.
We actually have very good relations with our first nations group as well. In the Northwest Territories we have three agreements that were recently executed with the Tlicho government. One of the problems we have, though, is that we have a settled land claim with the Tlicho, but the Tlicho sort of lack a capacity to really administer their lands. They have just been going through a process where they're now basically in charge of these lands. They've been working on a land-use plan for four years. They're also dealing with some implementation issues.
One of those issues is just who has the authority to make decisions on the land. This isn't just endemic with our particular project. It's a problem with the Northwest Territories generally, who has the authority to make decisions. The first nations, in our particular case, have fee simple lands, and they're actually the landlords. We also have a right of access, and there are also overlapping issues with authority between the federal government and the Northwest Territories governments. I would very much support devolution as one of the ways of simplifying this process.
Also, just implementation of land claims jurisdictions is a real problem. The land-use plan process that the Tlicho are currently undergoing has now been four years or five?