Yes.
I'll be very clear. I'm not here to say that things are good. I'm here to say that it's not a storm; it's a changed climate. White Birch, Abitibi, they're not dealing...of course, the dollar is disastrous for them. They're not dealing with competition. They're dealing with a structural change; they're in a business in which demand is going down. The storm came, it dropped, and now it's slowed down. They have to change business models.