We've been debating loan guarantees for many years inside the industry. We have two problems with them. One is—and we don't say this outside that much, but it's the truth—if you have three companies and two of them can make it without a loan guarantee, they don't want the other company to be helped through, because there's overcapacity, and in the end we want to come out of this terrible time stronger and more competitive. All of my member companies have agreed not to ask for loan guarantees, not because they're not suffering—they'd love the loan guarantees—but because in the end the loan guarantees are inevitably subject to parts of the political process and they stop the normal transformation of some people going out of business and others having a better time.
The other is that we're absolutely certain that they are actionable under the softwood lumber agreement.