If I can interject, there's another thing that impacts greatly, and where I think there's an awful lot of opportunity for the government to support. This is very relevant to Quebec and Ontario.
We can't access some of the new markets because we are really hindered from a transportation perspective. There's the monopoly we face with rail and getting our products to market. We estimate that has a $280-million-per-year price tag for just our membership—not looking at the bigger picture. This is a huge cost burden for us in the long haul. This is a huge opportunity for Quebec and Ontario mills to get product to some of the new, emerging markets. The brilliance of it is that it's fairly low cost in terms of implementing change.