Can you tell me this? We had some discussion about the utilization of refineries and the level of capacity they're running at in Canada right now. We heard it's a percentage in the low 80s or 83% or whatever. I'm just wondering if you have an estimate on the utilization of our oil and gas pipelines in Canada in the present. I guess there's a difference between oil and gas because of the markets right now. But do you know what that utilization rate is for each of them?
