You see job creation from environmental degradation? I would say that would be bad. I would say that's not the vision I want for my daughter. I would say, yes, that is bad.
There is a lot of economic growth from hardship in our economy. When people get divorced, there is economic growth. Lawyers are hired and we see growth, but the fact that we see economic growth from bad things doesn't mean that is the vision we as Canadians want. As a public administrator, I don't see that is the way most Canadians want to go. Most people I talk to in my community want to safeguard the environment. They don't want to think about job creation from environmental degradation, so I have to disagree with you on that point.
Ms. Babcock, you testified at the finance committee in the fall, and you talked a bit about a housing crunch and housing affordability. Could you elaborate on that?