Thank you for the question.
Education is clearly one of the issues. There are barriers to advancement that are based in people's confidence and their literacy and numeracy abilities. But they're deeper than that. Unless there are people who are being advanced, there are no role models. People need to see people advancing in order that they can then feel that they can succeed themselves. There's a lot of favouritism in the northern mines so that southern people are favouring non-aboriginal people who are putting themselves forward. They're self-seeking, self-promoting, and they put themselves forward; therefore, they get leap-frogged over somebody who is in a haul truck who's not putting himself forward and self-promoting.
There are a lot of endemic workplace barriers that are about culture and sometimes about racism that are stopping people from moving up, in addition to the role model factor. We simply haven't seen it. Ekati has been operating for a long time. Diavik's been at it for a long time. We don't see senior-level management in those companies.