Thank you, Mr. Trost, and Chair.
I would like to follow on with the answer I provided to Ms. Liu earlier that relates to your question: larger-scale test grounds or pilot project work needs to be done to move some of these ideas forward to a commercial stage. That's always the difficult part of the innovation curve—taking laboratory ideas through to commercial projects.
That work was supported by the SR and ED program to a greater degree than it will be going forward, and I think we should continue to look at means or policies to help support that more risky but very important stage of the innovation curve.
On other matters, I might suggest passing this question on to Mr. Stringham, because he can help fill in on that, I think.