Okay, thank you for clarifying that. It's much appreciated.
I'd like to come back both to you and to Mr. Nelson, because what you're speaking about is very intriguing. I'm very interested in the costs, and I've been up to the oil sands more times than I can count this year. I've been up with our national leader, Tom Mulcair, with the NDP members of this committee, and a couple of times on my own, all the way from Fort McMurray right up to Fort Chipewyan. One of the things I've been asking every time I've toured an oil sands site is the cost of reclamation.
To date, even though I've asked CAPP and I've asked the companies, we have not had any estimate of reclamation costs for any part of the pilot projects that are currently under way. Of course, that's extremely important for public policy. We need to understand what the costs are for reclamation in order to understand how public policy can best be oriented toward that reclamation.
Mr. Nelson, you were talking about moving to implementation from the pilot project that you've said has been successful. I'm wondering if you can give us an idea of the cost of implementation at one oil sands plant.
Mr. Gradek, you've mentioned having incentives in place to put in place a pilot project. Could you give us some sense of what the overall cost of that might be, and then in both cases, what you're looking for in terms of support from the federal government for these initiatives?