I'll start, and I'll admit to something of a conflict of interest: I was the assistant deputy minister of Natural Resources Canada in the 1990s and was responsible for a lot of the energy efficiency programs there. They grew a lot after that.
The basic point I want to make is that there is a foundation of basic energy efficiency programs that you need to have, including information—what I'll call, if you will, the wholesale end of energy efficiency--where national leadership is absolutely critical. A lot of the retail energy efficiency programs should be delivered, I believe, by the provinces and by utilities through demand-side management programs, but without that kind of federal infrastructure, that foundation, it's really very difficult to do it. I think the federal government has provided leadership on that over more than two decades, and that needs to continue.