Thank you for your answer.
My next question is for Ms. Cobden. Toward the end of your presentation you talked about there often being a certain hesitancy when people get new ideas to take the next step. It's interesting that, going back to when this committee was still part of the industry committee in 2004-05, this is what we heard for not just the forestry and energy sectors but everywhere in the Canadian experience.
Could you comment on what sorts of things your association has seen that have helped to bridge that gap, and on what sorts of things have been tried and have not been successful?
Going back all the way through 2004, it has been said that Canada is really good at the original idea and the final idea, but that we have that little gap in between wherein we hesitate. Sometimes people have said it's because of a lack of capital. Sometimes people have said it's the dynamics of our north-south relationship. I'd be curious how—