Do you know what we really liked about PPGTP? We liked the creativity behind it.
It would have been really easy for any government to respond to the competitive distortions we were seeing in the marketplace with just a quick fix-it, slapdash subsidy like you saw in the U.S. Instead, they designed a program that actually advanced us from a competitiveness position on green credentials.
So I do have to say, and go back to, that I'm very sincere about the benefits of the pulp and paper green transformation program.