Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to our witnesses for being here.
Ms. Cobden, I'd like to start with you. It's about the pulp and paper green transformation program.
There's one mill in my riding, which was a beneficiary of AV Nackawic. They did a number of projects in the mill that significantly lowered their energy usage. One of the comments they made to me, when we were talking about doing a couple of the announcements, was that we got that right as opposed to the U.S. Theirs was just a plain subsidy on operations. It didn't encourage any innovation. It didn't encourage any savings in energy costs.
What is the report card on how the mills have done? Most importantly, how have some of your other operations, and the sawmill operations, been able to improve their energy use over the last little while as well, to make them more competitive? As we know, it's been a real challenge because of board lumber prices and whatnot in the U.S. market. What have those sawmills done?