You're right. I would say there is a similar point to be made about productivity as well.
We focus a lot on the machines. We don't focus much on the people who will actually maintain and operate the machines. I would say it's the same thing as having a very fuel-efficient car but you drive it in a way that is not very fuel efficient.
In the examples I was giving, the whole idea of training an employee is more popular for companies that have a plan that goes beyond just buying new machinery or refurbishing their building. More and more of our member companies are aware and they do adopt these plans, with consultants or internally.
We've had lean manufacturing, where you were training people to see if you could become more productive by changing the way you put the people on the line and the way you operate the machine. It's the same thing for energy efficiency. Operating the new machinery the right way, having your people in the plant giving you some intelligence with regard to the buildings in general, and having good maintenance of the building internally, are all things that companies will want to do. A lot of them will go with consultants that will put together a sustainable plan that will focus on training the employees to make sure they achieve their targets.
As I said, Canfor is a good example. They reduced their energy consumption by 25%. I don't know what share of that was due to training their employees, but it had to be quite a significant share of it.
You're right, and it's something we keep emphasizing. I hope in this year's budget and the federal budget next year, there will be more focus on labour training. It's definitely an area where we need to do something more.