Electricity policy tends to be handled at the provincial level, so we're dealing with provincial utilities and provincial governments that come up with their own targets and their own programs to support renewable electricity. We've seen that in Ontario. We've seen that in other provinces across the country.
Heat is something that we pay much less attention to in the country, with a few exceptions. We have had some federal programs to help with retrofitting recovery boilers in order to generate more heat and electricity and also to get more efficient recovery within the pulp mills. There have been other programs in the past, which are escaping me right now.
Because we treat heat with one hand and electricity with the other, we overlook the opportunity for combined heat and power generation. Combined heat and power generation is the most efficient way and the best way of getting heat out of a solid. Whether we're talking about renewable biomass or coal, it really doesn't matter. If you can do combined heat and power, you get much more efficiency because you're using the heat that's left over, and I think we need to find ways to move more of that technology forward.