Value-added energy products, I would say. I should tell you I'm a former refinery worker, so I'm a person who actually believes that rather than exporting raw bitumen we should be looking at value-added. That of course is the position of our party as well. So the question is to what extent we have any on-the-ground support or any projections about the kind of supports needed to stimulate value-added exports.
On April 18th, 2013. See this statement in context.