I would agree on the Atlantic thing. The consumers may not get that much of a break once you end up.... That's not the way pricing operates anyway. Pricing operates based on import prices coming in, and the retail price is set by the import price. You will get a squeezing of that, once we get more of this pipeline capacity being built in the United States itself. I think the Brent price and the WTI prices are going to converge. The last time I looked they were only $10 apart instead of $20, so there's been quite a convergence even in the past couple of months.
The other part of it is that maybe Mr. McGowan would like to have even more jobs in Alberta. I would like, from an economics point of view, to place jobs according to where the greatest value-added is created in the country. The thing about existing refineries is that they can actually do upgrading more cheaply than those that are being built anew.
That's why no investor was willing to take on something like the North West upgrader unless they got a guarantee for market risk. They know that those margins are going to get squeezed on the refining side because the heavy oil price is going to go up and those margins are going to get squeezed as a result. It would be great if Quebec refineries could make some money and create some jobs in Quebec. I think that would be good for the Canadian economy. I think that's exactly the way the market should operate.