Thank you very much.
Thank you all for coming today and providing testimony.
I see a kind of bleak picture with respect to getting to tidewater on the Pacific for the reasons you both have given, Chief John and Mr. Rubin. Basically we've been following Northern Gateway and more recently Kinder Morgan.
Let me ask a very basic question. Is there a solution, if the right tone is adopted, if other options are chosen? I'm not talking about rail yet, but the pipeline option to west coast tidewater. In your opinion, is there potentially some solution that can be found if everybody comes together and tries to find a solution that is acceptable to environmentalists, to first nations whose territory the pipeline crosses and into whose marine waters the ships navigate? Is there a solution that can be found, or is this a lost cause?