I don't want to waste my time with that.
I've got some good news for you, Mr. Telford. My colleague Chris Charlton has a private member's bill that would cover the exact costs you were talking about, the costs of your travelling to Thunder Bay. I think that's a great idea.
I want to talk a little about upgrading a refinery. How many jobs would upgrading a refinery create for your workers, roughly, just a general view?